Roy Waldrom (1937-2014)

At 9:15 am NZ time, a mentor and friend stepped into the light. As the author of this website I am just one of hundreds, no thousands, that have had their lives forever altered by an encounter with Roy Waldrom.roysuit.jpg Loved as a grandfather, father and husband, Roy was a simple man, simply hearing Father God and teaching what he heard to everyone he met. Simple. "Why are you trying to make it hard?" he asked. "Just ask Jesus." I was certain the Christian walk could not be that simple. But it was. He will certainly be missed. But Roy lives on in the hearts and lives of those he touched, I for one, will never be the same. You played your part well, mate, you played your part well.    
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    Truth! A Christmas message. By Alan Vincent

    I read a book some years ago by Michael Cassidy centred on the words Jesus prayed on the night before he died in John 17. An excellent book. For me it was a bit heavy going but full of nuggets of gold. One being that Michael wrote extensively about ‘Truth,’ and after many pages of looking at Truth from every conceivable perspective, he came to the conclusion that Truth was not a lot of things he thought it was, but in fact the Truth was not anything other than, that Truth is a person, His name is Jesus. He was, is and will always be Truth. He said of himself, I am the Truth. This changed my whole understanding of what I should do when I need to know the Truth about just about anything, I should ask the Truth, what is the Truth and what he tells me I can utterly depend on. I also learned that Truth can only be the Truth in the fullness of the context the question is asked in. I also know that I am never in possession of all the facts, only He is, and his ways are far and above my ways, and his thoughts far and above my thoughts. I guess I’ll never know enough to know what I need to know to know the Truth and therefore act righteously without His input. How wonderfully humbling is that. Compared to what he knows I know nothing, only Him who knows everything.

    It was from this setting that as we came into the approach of Christmas this year I felt Jesus (The Truth) drawing me to the Gospel of Luke. Luke is a great help to me as I’m from a semi-scientific background and can be a bit exacting and fact based, task focused in my approach to life. Luke was from a similar kind of background being a doctor in his day. So he seems to speak my kind of language. This is not to diminish in any way the other writers of the Gospels as they all bring wonderful enlightenment on different aspects of the interpretation of the age in which they live. Matthew  saw it as a Jew, John from the Heart, Mark was frank and to the point. They all help us in their different ways and although the Gospels are not identical, this adds to the strength of Truth contained in each as they enlighten us to the perspective each of these different characters from different backgrounds and bring us the Truth.

    So; Here I am pre Christmas 2016 and the Lord is Highlighting Truth and drawing me to the Gospel of Luke. I started to read at Luke 1 and only got as far as verse 4! In the NIV:-


    Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

    In the NKJV

    Dedication to Theophilus

    Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled[a] among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus, that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.

    As I read these words, the weight of the responsibility on all of us to tell the truth, to be the truth and to testify to the truth as revealed to us through the Holy Spirit. After all we are told all scripture is God breathed in 2 Tim 3:16, also that the Holy Spirit will guide each one of us into all Truth, as I have no doubt he did with each of his disciples. Here we have Luke introducing his labours no doubt hand written by him in the original Greek, 23 chapters worth and about 19,500 words, written checked, rechecked until he was happy it was accurate and articulate enough to send to his wonderful friend Theophilus. Surely; a labour of love by a man of learning, detail, accuracy, research and fastidious pursuit of the truth. Yet sometimes when I read the word or hear it read, I find it hurried and even raced through, and in some ways familiar such that it can be scan read!

    So when I shared this with the folk at Chorley Chapel at our Sunday Lunch Gathering on the First Sunday of December this year, I laid before them a challenge.

    My challenge was to read and re-read verses 1 to 4 and allow our hearts and minds to connect with the passion for truth and accuracy of detail that Luke must have laboured over for so long under the influence and guidance of the Holy Spirit, until he was fully satisfied with what he had set down, all 19,000 plus words of it. Then; To allow ourselves the joy of patiently, slowly, deliberately read word by word (just as you would read a love letter, savoring every word) exactly what has been written by this man of God and let it speak to us in Truth so we can receive a fresh revelation of the Truth of what is written.

    Why did I do this? Because I am dyslexic. My wife Sue and daughter Rachel, and friend Tim help me greatly as does the Holy Spirit to get my thoughts down accurately. Also when I read scripture, even when I’m preaching, I’m only able to ready slowly and deliberately putting together each letter and each word with clarity and distinction. In that way I am blessed. My wife Sue tells me she is amazed, when she reads a book she can devour a paper back in a couple of days, for me it can be three months! Then she reminds me that I can quote the book years later with almost perfect recall. She also says I seem to get far greater understanding from the content than she does because I have had to read it slowly and carefully. I was further encouraged a few weeks ago while leading one of our men’s retreat groups, as I (on auto pilot) automatically apologised for my slow reading. When at the end of the page I had read, one of the men in the group said ‘Alan, you always make that apology when you read a passage or something, yet you have just read a page without error, and because it was read slowly and clearly I understood every word and have been deeply affected by the content.’ Thank you Clay, 2 Cor 12:10 So I take pleasure in weaknesses, insults, catastrophes, persecutions, and in pressures, because of Christ. For when I am weak, then I am strong. To God be the Glory.

    Once you have grasped the passion for accuracy and truth in Luke’s heart through these 4 verses, please continue to read the absolutely unbelievably wonderful True story that unfolds through Luke 1 to Like 4 and on…………

    This was my challenge and I pray this may also be my Christmas gift to each one who reads these words this month. In Jesus Name.

    As I was delivering this message, I was convicted by the Holy Spirit to bring a different challenge to the ladies present at our lunch meeting. That they should do the same but reading John’s Gospel. 1:1 to 5 to try to grasp a fresh the true wonder of this man who was God and who is their beloved, Savior, Champion, Redeemer and the bringer of all things including life and light. And then; when this becomes a consuming fire read on though John’s Gospel about this amazing King of Kings and Lord of Lords who Luke tells us was born in a manger in a stable. Ladies, be blessed as you let the Holy Spirit bring revelation wave upon wave of revelation to your very core about what this means for you, and the Joy Jesus feels because of how you feel about him and his love for you.

    Why did I choose Luke for the men, and why was I led to recommend John for the ladies. That’s an easy question, because we men are very task focused and we really are hungry for the facts. Luke writes the Truth in a very matter of fact way, ideal for the redeemed sons of Adam. John on the other hand writes his Truth from his heart for he seems relational to the core in all his writings. I know this is like fine wine to the daughters of Eve.

    May the word of God (The Truth) dwell in your richly, and through it put its roots down deeply within you, so you are rooted and grounded in love, a certainty of Truth that will withstand all onslaughts, and having stood will stand. In Jesus Name. For He is the Truth, in Him we STAND, and having stood STAND.

    Isaiah 9:6-7 New King James Version (NKJV)

    For unto us a Child is born,
    Unto us a Son is given;
    And the government will be upon His shoulder.
    And His name will be called
    Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
    Of the increase of His government and peace
    There will be no end,
    Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
    To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
    From that time forward, even forever.
    The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

    May the miracle of Christ’s coming fill your heart with warmth and love for all of God’s Children.

    It is my hope that the Truth of these Gospels with burn in you this season, and that as you have rich opportunities with all grace and gentleness to share the Truth with people who are desperate to hear it. We are not called to be holding peoples sins against them! 2 Cor 5 18:19. 18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

    Let us bring the Truth with all grace. Colossians 4:6 says:- Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.

    Alan Vincent

    From the Church that meets in Chorley, Shropshire, England.

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    By their fruit you will know. Judging. By Alan Vincent

    One of Roy’s greatest gifts to the Church was and is his revelations and understanding about judgement and judging.

    This is a topic that God has been bringing to fruition in me over many years. It has made me realise this life we live in Christ is a journey into maturity and there are many hurdles to overcome. Pride at how well we think we are doing being one! As Paul, and the writer of Hebrews taught us in 1 Cor 3:2, and Heb 5:12 respectively.

    1 Corinthians 3:2 New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

    I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready.

    Hebrews 5:12 New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

    12 In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God’s word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!

    For all of us there comes a time for solids, or more meaty stuff, but are we ready for it? Getting to the core of understanding all the fullness of Jesus teaching about judging, or more accurately not judging, has been just such a journey for me. Milk, meat, and back to the milk again, to get the life changing revelation and foundational understanding right. The great thing is even this journeying to and fro bears much fruit along the way, and as maturity and understanding develop through God’s grace (and not our own understanding), it becomes and produces good fruit that will last.

    Jesus’ teaching about judging others in Matthew 7

    1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Judging others from James 4

    11 Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgement on it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbour?

    Judging others from Luke 6

    37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”


    It seems not judging, and forgiving in some respects are very closely allied. So how do they intertwine for good, and how do their opposites of judging and unforgiveness produce so much bad fruit not only in this age but in the age to come?

    First of all lets understand what we are talking about by using two examples of judging as appropriate from our English language use and interpretation of the word. When we use the word as it was intended in Jesus teaching my best analogy is to think of a court room.


    There is a Judge and it is his or her job to judge on the evidence as it is presented in the court, and to make a decision on that evidence alone, and no other. I'm so glad I do not have to judge as a Judge does. If I did I can only judge on the information that is available to the court, and my understanding of it, and the judgement I reach has to be as prescribed under law combined with the law of precedents. (A judicial precedent is a decision of the court used as a source for future decision making. This is known as stare decisis (to stand upon decisions) and by which precedents are authoritative and binding and must be followed.) When Jesus says do not judge, he is saying to us that we have no right to pass judgement on our fellow man. One reason being, we don’t have all the facts!

    This is not to be confused with knowing a fact. If you saw a person stab another person to death, you know what you saw! Or maybe you know what you think you saw, or even believe you saw. If you go beyond what you saw, you may slide into the kind of judgement that Jesus said do not!

    It is also a disturbing thought that as man’s understanding (which we must not rely on) grows we gather what we see, hear and feel and our minds put together a picture of what it best understands, it then fills in the gaps according to how it interprets the situation. Our brain can do this in a trillionth of a second. This is very disturbing and gives huge credibility to why Jesus and others spoke so strongly about not judging. What my brain believes or thinks it saw has become not a matter of fact but of available information to my senses, augmented and interpreted by my mind, and added to by my world view, prejudices, and opinions. Because of the brilliant way our minds work, we can process and reach conclusions very quickly that are probably very helpful, but are not always entirely factual or true. We get it wrong! Sometimes we get it wrong even when we are absolutely sure we are right! Just think of some of the decisions you see made by referees on football fields! They sometimes have to make, and act on many judgements a minute and resolve that they are right... until the TV replay is looked at later!

    The kind of judgement that Jesus was teaching us we should not do was to pronounce our own idea of someone’s guilt, and in our hearts or minds pass sentence, or assign a label or blame to another person as a result; or be prejudiced against them, whether we do this openly or in the secrecy of our hearts or minds! Judging and passing sentence ultimately is Jesus job, and one day He will judge all of us, including judging us for our judging of others! He will be bound by His righteousness to honour His Word and love of us, and use the measure that we used on others, on us! By the measure that we use it will be measured to us! This is a serious issue especially for us in the Body of Christ.

    1 Peter 4:17 King James Version (KJV)

    17 For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    There is one other use of the word judgement in our English language but to which Jesus was not referring and that is the kind of judgements we have to make thousands of times every day which do not involve judging others, assigning guilt or blame. For example:-

    Can I jump this stream? The answer you come to is a judgment at this stage. It will govern whether you have a go or not. This is not what Jesus was talking about when he said do not judge.

    Romans 11:33 NIV

    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgements, and his paths beyond tracing out!

    To judge as Jesus will one day judge in righteousness and truth is such a great and wonderful thing. If I am to be judged, above all else I will know His judgement is in the light of every fact, and is righteous and fair. His judgement requires complete knowledge about everything that in any way will impact on the situation he is judging, including the one being judged and their attitude to judging others! Things known and unknown to man - all will be considered and weighed. What a judgement, and everyone will not only know the outcome, but see that justice was done.

    I lead a men’s ministry in our Chapel here in Shropshire, England. It’s called Wild at Heart Boot Camp for men and is based on John Eldredge’s book Wild at Heart. When we touch on this subject of judging, I often find myself saying Who am I to judge? No matter how much I know, I’ll never know enough to know what I need to know, to know I'm making a fair and righteous judgement! Never! I must not rely on my own understanding. How dare I presume to judge another on any topic or issue? I must resolve in my heart to never judge another. I must always allow grace to abound, give the benefit of the doubt, realise I may have done the exact same thing if I had lived in their shoes. Can I extend grace, love, kindness, forgiveness, mercy and tolerance of their humanity? Would I like to receive those things for my errors? Can I do unto others as I would like them to do unto me? Luke 6:31 and Matthew 7:12. As we show our love and grace to someone who may have done something wrong and inwardly may be racked with guilt, it may open the very door through which they can come and find freedom and forgiveness in Jesus.

    If that be true, then how can I live without judging my brother, sister, neighbour, enemy, or a person of another faith? How often when trying to evangelise do we start from a place of prejudicial judgement? When the truth is we are just talking to people who have not received the revelation of God through Jesus and His Holy Spirit in their hearts yet! There but for the grace of God go I. Even so, He loves them to bits. What he wants us to do is “be” a witness for Him and His ways, and show His love, kindness, humility, gentleness, compassion, and the invitation to come unto Him (Matt 11:28). We have opportunity to share what has so graciously been given and revealed to us, by offering it to them. Freely we have received, now freely give. (Matt 10:8).

    Jesus commanded his disciples in John 13-34:35,

    34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

    Can we come to the lost and the searching and even the misguided, and deceived with such love as this? In 2 Tim 2 it says

    24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

    I guess the big question is, do I have what it takes to live this life without judging others? I’ll be frank. I don’t think I could in my own strength, but if Christ lives in me, surely I can do all things through Him who strengthens me! Apart from Him I can do nothing!

    How is that going for me so far? I'm making progress. He is changing me and my understanding. I'm aware that the further God takes me, the more there is to do, but the easier it is to do it. The great thing is as I'm moving forward life is becoming more joyful, happy, fulfilled, and I hope more honouring to Him. It’s a journey, and we need to press on towards the goal that God in Christ has called us heavenward… Paraphrase Phil 3:14.

    One of the things God has called my wife, Sue, and I to is training and application. So here goes:

    Once I got the core of not letting myself go to judgement, I needed some help from Jesus, and he gave me a way to stand, and having stood to stand. If I am being attacked, abused, or see a situation that I instinctively leap to judgement about, I'm learning that in that instant I can resolve to not take offence, or go to judgement. In my mind, in an instant I say to myself “Water off a ducks back!” In other words, no matter how offensive or blatant someone’s behaviour may be towards meI chose not to let it into my heart (I guard my heart) therefore I do not need to be offended! Secondly, I will not judge them as I don’t know anything about them, and my understanding is flawed to the extent that Scripture tells me not rely on it! In this position several things are possible:-

    1. I can keep the conversation going with the Holy Spirit. (If I act out of offence, counter attack, accuse or defend, I am instituting my own plan to save myself in this situation, when in Truth, I already have a Saviour who is ready, willing and able to do immeasurably more than I can ever hope or imagine. A Saviour not only of me, but who also would love to be the Saviour of the person attacking me!) This is mega. In this condition I am available to Jesus to be used in any way he chooses. If I’m saving myself through my wilful decision, he honours my free will and steps back!
    2. I can now say OK Jesus, with you I’m safe to listen without reacting and to hear without taking it to heart. What do you want me to do? He will give me gifts of patience, humility and peace. My body language will display kindness, gentleness and compassion.
    3. I am now part of the solution and not part of the problem. The grace of God is in play, I can bring many gifts from God into this situation (and who knows where it may go). I may even become their greatest friend, hear their story and lead them to Jesus. I have guarded my heart, and it has remained the wellspring of LIFE!

    You may have some further revelation and understanding of how to apply the above to your life on a daily basis, overcoming the enemy’s desire that you should be judging others and accusing others as he does day and night!

    When we are doing things God’s way, God will use us and give a word of knowledge or wisdom which has the power to unzip this whole stronghold and see it come crashing down. It is not our job to understand the word we know is from God. It is OK to ask Him, what do I do with this Lord? He may say hold it, or share it, or something else. It may be the key to open the door for this person to the Kingdom of Heaven. We can use it as directed by the Lord without making a judgement about what it means or why, that’s not our business. For example, we speak it out at the right time in the right way and the person shudders to a halt and bursts into floods of tears and asks, “How did you know about that?” and we can say, I don’t know anything about that, it was just that that was the word’ God spoke into my heart as we were talking. To God be the Glory! By their fruit you will know, good or bad. Disciples or wolves! By our fruit let us be known... Please Lord let it be good fruit, and fruit that will last.

    A personal prayer you might wish to say:. Lord, deliver me from the spirit of judgment and the legalistic spirit which so often accompanies it. I break agreement with those spirits now and chose to renounce them in Jesus Name. Lord teach me to trust in You in all your ways, and not to rely on my own understanding, but in all my ways acknowledge You. I also chose to do my best to love one another as you have loved me (even my enemies and those who oppose me). Amen.’

    To God be the Glory.


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    Becoming Unoffendable. By Alan Vincent

    Becoming unoffendable is part of a maturing Christian’s life. We are called to be a people who are ‘set apart’, different and not to conform to the pattern of this world. This sounds good, it sounds right but the reality is that it’s not easy! The reason why is that we keep some of our natural self in the foreground of life, when in fact Paul tells us in Romans we must die to self. That means taking the back seat, for we have given up many, if not all of our rights. Consequently others are perfectly within their rights to offend us, and we have no rights (we are dead) and we should not defend the rights that we don’t have. By now you may be feeling your blood beginning to boil, please allow me to explain. When somebody offends us it is because they have done something which we have chosen to take offense with. This is a choice or decision we make, based on our thinking, it’s not a decision based on Jesus’ teaching or character. The problem with taking offense is that we are already into at least two levels of sin by the time we feel offended. Roy Waldrom wrote many times on this website about judgment, unforgiveness and bitterness which all relate and weave into the subject of becoming unoffendable. Jesus seems very strong in his language on this subject so we can conclude this is very important to Him. He is even strong with himself to not judge before the appointed time. When Jesus judges he knows all the facts and is loving, righteous, and without sin or stain or blemish. To make it even easier to understand, I simply ask myself if I should be wearing a Judge or magistrate’s wig and gown, as Jesus himself said if we call our brother Racha it may have bad consequences. (Matt 5:22). His reason for telling us not to judge is wonderfully kind and loving towards us. He knows the trouble it will get us into in this life and beyond. He does not want to have to judge you or me using the measure you or I have used against others in this life on that fateful Day when our hope is for mercy and to receive our inheritance. How does all this tie into becoming unoffendable? If I let myself judge  someone for their action(s) towards me or someone I feel I am responsible for, I’m already in sin! Remember the unmerciful Servant in Matthew 18. Read it all but focus on verse 33 to 35 and meditate on it in context with the passage as a whole. This is deadly serious stuff. I should not have judged the person but have given grace, and forgiven them totally from the heart as it happened by choice. I should keep no record of wrongs and instead shown them love. If we don’t it can progress to unforgiveness, and whether they have the right to do or say that or not! This is beginning to sound like law and I’d like to say clearly that I DO NOT WANT TO BE UNDER LAW! Please Lord, keep me in and under your grace. Unforgiveness has added itself to judgment, and these two are now centre stage, and they will manage your actions and produce bad fruit. It wont be long before the unforgiveness and judgment lead to bitterness, then slander and gossip can begin to defile many people, both in the Body and not yet in the Body. Yet Jesus commanded us NOT to do either of these things. Overcoming an issue like this is all about the choices we make. We can chose to be offended, or we can chose not to take offence, and receive Kingdom help in this very situation. Jesus has covenanted with us, we need to take His commands seriously as we pray to see His Kingdom come, wherever we are. How can it come if we are not living like Kingdom People? Remember you and I were once sinners. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God, and the wages of sin is death. That was our condition until Jesus took our sin away and covered our sin with his Blood, extending to us His Amazing Grace and forgiveness. FREE! Remember, freely you have received, now freely give. Something in us may still be longing for its pound of flesh, even though we know our battle is not against flesh and blood….. Because we have received Jesus’ gift of love and forgiveness we are called to love and forgive others totally from the heart. I have to stop myself from judging others, and give grace; to be patient and kind, responding with love and Wisdom. Defence, attack, or any offensive countermeasure, will all lead to further sin. Let the offence be like water off a ducks back, don’t let it in! Hear what is said, and as you listen keep the channel open to the King and His Spirit, asking for wisdom and guidance. Then you will know how to respond, and it will be in love and not law, grace and not judgment. You can now be part of the solution and not add to the problem. It may well become clear that the person is actually quite hurt and needs love, help and kindness (which will turn away wrath). What they don’t need is a rebuke at this stage. If we don’t lean on our own understanding, actions and solutions to the problem, the channel is still open to the King, and He will give us words of knowledge, wisdom, strategy and guidance. Most of all what is usually needed is someone who will not judge, but will listen. As an example; What might happen if in tune with the Holy Spirit, awaiting his prompting, you said to the person “I’m sorry I’ve offended you, would you help me by explaining to me what I did that caused you to be so angry with me, would you let me buy you a coffee and talk it through, please?” You are the one with the “words of eternal life” in this situation. Listen patiently and carefully to their complaint or story (it may take more than one cup of coffee.. or tea for us English) and do not defend yourself, try to understand, and keep asking the Spirit to reveal the nature of woundedness in them or us! Take the low road. The more you listen, the more you will understand their condition. Compassion, love, and a deep desire to help will begin to rise within you. You never know where this is going to go. It may lead to salvation, another meeting, more coffee, them becoming one of your disciples who you may have the joy of leading to Jesus over the coming moments, weeks, decade when they become one of His Disciples, They may even become a life long friend. A problem situation or offence has now become a God sent opportunity for us to do the very work that Jesus told us to do. How did it start? The person was trying to offend you, an action born of some hurt in them, or a wrong action from you! We are still works in progress as they are. We see Light triumph over darkness and His Kingdom come, on Earth as it is in Heaven! The enemy has lost territory. Not to mention the “Joy Inexpressible” of seeing someone who was lost, found! To God be the Glory. Kindness, gentleness, humility, mercy are His hallmarks in Matt 11:28 and Matt 18. It’s amazing how powerful these attributes are as Kingdom assets when used in the world, against the kingdom of darkness. They have divine power! It’s also a paradox that while we are still rejoicing that we are no longer under Law, how often as Church we resort to Law to put others in their place And try to claim the higher ground! I am learning, slowly, that the Law is now nailed to the Cross, and the weapons we fight with are not the weapons of this world. Allow me to share a testimony: I shared this revelation at a men’s group in my home town. The men listened attentively until there was an eruption against what I was saying! I did not take offence. I honoured the four men who had risen up in protest listening to their protestations and defence of their right to be offended and retaliate, to react, rebuke, have their say, and the like. When they had all finished, I said OK. Let’s ask the Holy Spirit be the arbiter of this issue. I prayed that in the days ahead we would all (me included) see situations where we put into practice what I had been teaching. A week later I have a call from the group leader to come and share further, as there had been quite a reaction. I agreed, not knowing if I was going to be stoned, or attend an inquisition! We reached the point where I was invited to speak. I opened my mouth and the first previous protestor asked if he could share something……. I agreed. He brought an amazing testimony concerning a man who worked with him who was using foul language and blasphemed. The protester proclaimed his right to defend the Name of Jesus, I understand that. The next day the man continued to do more of the same, so the day after our earlier meeting, the protester was ready to defend the name of Jesus vigorously, and at that moment felt the grace of the Holy Spirit fill his heart. He put into practice what we had discussed, the guy accepted the invitation for a coffee and they talked it all through with mutual honour and respect and a lot of listening. As the protester began to understand this mans story his heart was filled with compassion. He testified the foul language had stopped totally without him even mentioning the subject, they were meeting together regularly at break time, and the once blaspheming man’s faith journey was underway. He even said they had become good friends. I prefer to say he was beginning to disciple this guy out of darkness and into the Kings Glorious Light. Each of the other three shared concerning how the problems they had spoken so strongly in defence of their right to be offended were now producing good lasting fruit. In every situation when I last enquired they were still moving forward. They all said the outcomes they witnessed were unbelievable in their own understanding, and were totally of God. This approach also has one huge final blessing in its wings. If you find yourself rising up against an offence directed towards you, stop and take stock. What just happened? The reason why this is so important is this situation has just highlighted a tender spot or wound in your innermost being. Now you know it’s there you can deal with it and be free of it and another stain or blemish in/on the Bride bites the dust. It really is win win. To God be the Glory. Do let me know how you feel about what I have shared here today. With much love, Alan
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    Dealing with trouble in the New Life. By Alan Vincent

    Roy and I had a number of great conversations and shared many thoughts and ideas which God had imparted to us through his Word. We also discussed new and innovative ways of displaying spiritual concepts and teaching diagrammatically in a simple (farm house cooking way) of sharing the message God is revealing in these days. He showed me the illustration he had done of the tree of life, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and how we respond to these two sources in the garden. Also, the clear linkage between these two trees and the life, or lack of it, we struggle with through our desire to base even our Spiritual thinking on knowledge and our own understanding. Roy had realised that although we symbolically but our selves to death when we come to Christ, and go through the waters of Baptism, it seems that some bits of the old man will not lie down. This is particularly evident when we hit a new occurrence of an old problem that predates our salvation. It's almost as if in some cases we cant resist the impulse to go back to our old solution to the problem which is part of our former life, and not part of our renewed life in Christ. We find ourselves re importing the old mans thinking and understanding and mind set into the new renewed mind that Christ is brining into being within us. Have a look at the graphic I showed Roy which tried to take his graphic and make this point very strongly. Dealing with troubles in the NEW LIFE Let me know what you think. If you need any help dealing with this kind of problem or recognise there are things that should have died in your new life but they just keep sitting up again. We would love to help you be free from these persistent old man attitudes and beliefs and agreement. It was for Freedom that Jesus set you free.
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    An introduction

    Alan & Sue Natalies Wedding July 09-portGreetings to all you friends of Roy's and folk who have visited his many articles and teaching over the years. My wife Sue and I with the help of our friend Tim Cutis are going to try and carry on something of the aims of the site to build on the work that Roy started. I have added a link to a copy of my testimony fromour Chapel web site atwww.The-Church.netwhich is a retiring site quite long in the tooth, and being replaced as we speak with a much more contemporary look and feel. Feel free to browse around though and find out more of what we do who we are and how we minister to those God brings us into contact with and beyond. We have also added a preview of something that Roy initiatedwith his diagram about the two trees which you may recall. We have taken that start point and expanded it to illustrate in a graphical way a very common problem that we have experienced in folk who have a faith but find themselves still struggling with some of the things that have roots in their old life and feel they are unable to shake them off in the New Life that Jesus has brought, is bringing and will bring. Let me know what you think. Dealing with troubles in the NEW LIFE
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    My Calling

    My Calling The following are examples of clear direction that has come to me directly by the voice of Jesus, John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me or as a prophecy spoken through believers who were used by the Holy Spirit to speak clear direction for my life. All I have done is receive the words and walk in them. In 1953 I made a profession of accepting Jesus as my saviour and learned to read by reading a Bible. The first time I read the words of Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. I had an impression that one day that would happen. That day came in 1965 when we left the job as a carpenter to manage a youth camp and teach children the Bible. From that day till this all our needs have been supplied including countless thousands of dollars spent in travel around the world having visited 34 nations including 25 times to the UK. In Easter 1976. these words came straight to my mind when I told The Lord I was wretched, blind naked and knew it. John 15:3. You are clean through the Word. The message of forgiveness would go around the world. These words came out of my mouth as I was speaking in a church service on forgiveness. It was not till some time later I came to understand I would take the message of forgiveness around the world. This has proven to be true. 1 Peter 3:7, Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. This verse was given to me by a fellow, believer. I came to understand that unless I live with my wife with understanding as to where she is spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically at all times and protect her He [Father God] would not answer my prayers. Acts 22:10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. This verse was given to me by a visitor from USA which challenged me with this question Was I willing to do the will of God with only one question before I did or said anything from that moment on? I said yes. In December 76 in a room full of 100 men the speaker said he would ask Father God for a word for each one, he came to me and said. You are going into counselling up to 18 hours a day and you need strength. I can testify that this has proven true from that day till this. In 1976 I was lead to read Jeremiah 1:8 and Ezekiel 3:5-6. These verses led me to understand that I would have the ministry of a prophet among nations that would know my language. This has proven to be correct. In 1984 I was having breakfast with a man who told me I had the anointing of a prophet. He also told me things about how I would respond to life which has proven totally true. In the last few years have been told many times I am a Father to bring encouragement to other believers. 1 Corinthians 14:15 it says There are not many fathers. In 1977 I as directed to read Psalm 91. The promises of that Psalm have served an anchor within me. In 1978 I was in a class of children teaching them what we called Bible in Schools. I knew these children had learned about the living Lord Jesus and would pray knowing they would get answers. I mentioned I was in need of 10 thousand dollars and I told them I should be working 6 days a week to pay the debt and asked them to pray for me. One boy stood and said, God get Uncle Roy some money A girl in the front row said, Are you not suppose to be live by faith? I was completely told off by Father God through her. The following Monday Father God sorted out our finances and we have never been in debt again. All we have needed has been supplied. There are many other words I have received as I have been out walking and thoughts have popped into my mind that I was not thinking about like I have added 10 years to your life. That was 5 years ago. Another time I was thinking about buying a car and I heard the words, Why are you limiting me and looking at your own resources? I replied Lord are you telling me to buy a new car I heard Yes That day I ordered a new Honda Jazz. When it came paid cash. It is now 6 years old done 43,thousand KM and will see us out. My prayer is that all who read this will get some understanding in how to be guided by the Holy Spirit, either by hearing Jesus, voice which comes as a thought in the mind or a verse of scripture that stands out, or through another human who shares a thought they received as they have been in prayer for me and my situation at that time. By being obedient to those directions I have enjoy life that can be experience by all who follow the same example. In times when there has been no clear direction I have sought to walk in the light of the last message received.
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    Kingdom Finance

    Kingdom finance. Concerning the area of finance, for me it has been simple. Matthew 6:33 says that when we seek first His Kingdom and do whatever He requires then all is added. That is a clear promise. The down side is that when what is needed is not added it is because we are not doing what He requires no matter how spiritual or practical it might seem. The key is to repent for doing what we thought was His will and remain in repentance till the peace is loud and clear. Part of repentance is bringing the fruits of repentance Matthew 3:8, Acts 26:20. Simple. I have been disobedient, driven by what I believe I should do, or by what others say I should do and trying to meet the needs of others out of one’s soul [human strength]. To put it another way I was working independently of the true living relationship by hearing the voice of Jesus, John 10:27. So when I repent I ask Jesus to tell me what He wants me to do to prove to him that I am an obedient servant. What thoughts come I believe it is from Him and obey. For me it is always something simple and practical. It has never failed. At all times it is about building the relationship between the individual believer and Jesus plus dying to self, religion, church and all the things that man does by wrote.
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    The True Church

    Now at 75 years of age I remember when church was something you attended with others in a church building. The gatherings were basically of 2 kinds, the Catholics, and those who were not. The non Catholic folk were divided into many separate groups, each attending in a building where church was conducted. The day came when I had a living encounter with the voice of Jesus. I was in prayer telling Father God I felt wretched, poor, blind and naked before Him. As clear as a person speaking a reply came, No you are not, you are clean John 10:27 that made it clear the human body is his dwelling place and I was anointed [ordained John 15:16] to go and bear fruit as I obeyed Jesus voice. The first people to come into the same relationship as I did met together in homes usually around a meal. Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the morrow; and he prolonged his speech until midnight. Many of the letters written to churches were addressed to the home where people gathered in a city or locality but not to denominations as we have today. What divides is what man has created, whether a name, bank account, a constitution or a mission statement. All the leadership of the early church was a function not an office . It was the anointing people submitted to and there was respect. It was not about rank, or position. We read that the greatest among was to serve, not rule over. To rule in Hebrews means to bring joy, peace, contentment and security, as stated in Hebrews 13, nothing to do with control and domination. We are told to go into all the world and be salt to flavor and light to see by, not to invite people into a building called a church. Revelation 3:20 is an interesting verse where we find Jesus outside the church door knocking and inviting people to come out to him. Today it is so easy to play church and have no inner relationship with The Lord Jesus by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Church is mainly a social club that has rules and regulations for membership. For 11 years my wife and I were full time ministering to young people about what we understood it meant to become a Christian. One day my wife prayed, "Lord your pay is lousy we are doing all this work for you and you do not pay a decent wage" He replied as a loud thought in her mind "I do not even know you" She replied, "You are right and I quit". To know is to be in intimate relationship, in communication, in fellowship, and to expose ones innermost being. This can only take place in a relationship where there is no judgment and unforgiveness. The only one who can do that is Jesus. We found the above to be true and have lived in that relationship for 46 years. Every person when born has in their spirit a desire to be loved, accepted and forgiven and looks to man to fulfill that desire. Because man has a fallen nature that desire is unfulfilled causing disappointment and rejection that leads to depression. The only one who can truly fulfill that desire is Jesus. This is why fullness of life will not be found in organized religious systems. It is only by individual relationship with the Lord Jesus that life can truly be fulfilled .
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